Last week, the Southeastern Conference was proclaimed the best in the land for 2008. This week it's the Big 12. Total nonsense, of course, because more than half of the teams have been getting fat on cupcake opponents.
A true test is to compare how the Bowl Championship Series conferences have fared against each other for the past 10 seasons. For the answer, we once again turned to Ed Gunther of National Championship Issue.
Ed recently compared conference vs. conference records, including bowl games, from 1998-2007. By percentage, the Pacific 10 won 54.5% of its games against BCS opponents. Here is the breakdown:
Pacific 10: 54.5%
Southeastern: 50.8%
Big Ten: 50.5%
Atlantic Coast: 50%
Big 12: 48.8%
Big East: 45.9%
We took Ed's data and charted how the BCS conferences fared against each other. Two surprising numbers. First, the Big East was only 10-20 against the Big Ten. Second, the SEC was only 8-17 against the Big East. Here's the data. Have at it. As always, click a chart for an expanded view.



Don't a disproportionate number of crappy teams play BCS schools in their non-con...especially in the SEC? So if Miss. St. is 0-8 against the Big East doesn't that pretty much negate this as an accurate bearing of conference supremacy?
Posted by: Ritty | October 01, 2008 at 06:34 AM
Interesting study. However, it seems like the data would be skewed since the bowl match-ups don't pit equally ranked teams within the conferences.
For example, the Papa Johns bowl is the only official SEC v. Big East tie-in and it pits the 4/5 ranked Big East team against the lowest ranked bowl-elgible SEC team.
Therefore it seems difficult to draw a conclusion about the supremecy of certain conferences when you're matching the 4th rank team in a certain conference against the 9th ranked team in another.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Bids_to_Non-BCS_Bowls
Posted by: | October 01, 2008 at 06:44 AM
great analysis. More the charts the better. but can you guys break it down one more level to the matchups, i think that would be more useful to see who played who and what rank they where.
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Posted by: ed | October 01, 2008 at 09:28 AM
While I certainly agree with the above statement, there is one small flaw with the data above: it is missing one BCS team. How did each conference do against Notre Dame? I think this may be significant, because both the Pac-10 and Big Ten play several OOC games per season against the Irish.
Posted by: Joe | October 01, 2008 at 11:26 AM
I agree w/ the previous commenter, that since a large chunk of inter-conference games are bowls and bowls don't always pit equally ranked teams it's hard to use that as an objective measure. Certainly interesting to see though, probably does help the Pac-10 as it tries to defend its reputation as a weak conference.
Another way to look at over-all conference strength is to measure competitive balance (i.e. changes in the conf. standings from year to year, probability that the last team in the conference can beat the first, etc.). I did a research paper on this, applying a couple different accepted competitive balance measures to the six BCS conferences for the past 10 years (when the BCS was first used to name a champion). I also looked at the distribution of BCS championships across the conferences.
Drum roll please...... the SEC was first in both.
Posted by: | October 01, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Hey Joe, I'd be interested in seeing that paper. It sounds similar to the study I published back in July
http://thenationalchampionshipissue.blogspot.com/2008/07/top-to-bottom-conference-report.html
but I came up with very different results. Do you have a site?
Posted by: Ed Gunther | October 01, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Hi Ed, I read your study. Interesting results- we took different approaches. I did not examine any specific game results, only the final standings each year and the distribution of championships. So I examined more so the shake-ups in the standings from year to year as opposed to the number of times a favored team was upset. My thought process is, if USC wins the Pac-10 a majority of the time and there's not significant change in the final standings from year to year, then it isn't as relevant to C.B. if Stanford or Oregon State upset them during the season. C.B. in sport can be tough to draw conclusions about- technically 'perfect' C.B. would be if each team ended up at .500 and that's not necessarily the best thing for sports.
I used the Herfindahl-Hirschman Index (HHI). It's been adapted by sports economists as a way to measure C.B. It's originally a measure of market concentration to evaluate monopoly/antitrust issues, usually related to business mergers. I.e. USC has a huge market share in the Pac-10.
I don't have my paper anywhere on-line, but I'd be happy to e-mail excerpts if you'd like.
I think some combination of our two approaches is probably best. One of the acknowledged limitations in my research was not looking at in-season results. Kudos to you!
Posted by: Lane | October 01, 2008 at 02:12 PM
Hey Lane, (sorry I got the name wrong initially), I would like to see any excerpts you'd be willing to send. I'm happy any time I can get my hands on a good study. gunthered6@yahoo.com. Thanks -
Posted by: Ed Gunther | October 01, 2008 at 03:16 PM
It's about time that the PAC-10 gets some respect. Yes we are in a down year, but from one sport to the next, the Conference of Champions is always at or near the top. Too bad all the fans in the south are blind to that fact!
Posted by: robert | October 01, 2008 at 05:35 PM
Regarding the notion that the data is flawed because the PapaJohn's.com Bowl matches the lowest rated SEC team against the 4/5 Big East team - the only problem with that argument is that the PapaJohns.com Bowl has not yet actually matched an SEC team against a Big East team. Until this year the bowl was aligned with Conference USA.
Posted by: Tony | October 01, 2008 at 10:07 PM
If you feel like the data discriminates against your favorite conference because most of their losses occurred when one of your lower rated teams played against a higher rated team from another conference then the obvious solution is that the best teams in your conference should be scheduling more games against BCS opponents.
Posted by: Tony | October 01, 2008 at 10:16 PM
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Posted by: | October 06, 2008 at 01:07 PM
Dude! Please...The SEC is The Best in the Country. Why do you think you run up all those points. The Pac10 would never even come close to being a competitor in the SEC. USC keeps hiding from the SEC by playing lame Big 10 teams in the Rose bowl. Y'all are too close to hollywood...you are believing your own fiction. SEC is THE BEST fottball confernece in the world for college.
Posted by: Stockspeare | October 27, 2008 at 07:55 PM